Hillary "No Torture" Clinton
At the Democratic Candidates' Debate in New Hampshire last night, Hillary Clinton said she wouldn't approve of torturing a suspected terrorist to prevent the detonation of a nuclear bomb.
Well, good for her.
There a few reasons why torture is almost always a bad idea:
1) From a practical standpoint, it doesn't work. John McCain, a man who knows something about torture, has said that a torture victim will tell his captors anything just to get it to stop. So the information is probably useless anyway.
2) There's a moral issue here. If someone can tell me that they can envision Jesus hooking up the jumper cables to some guy's testicles and cranking up the generator, well, they need a little help.
3) Where do you stop? If the guy won't fess up, why not drag his little girl out and torture her in front of him until he talks?
"Whatever it takes'' is tough guy talk for "I'm willing to lose my soul.''
Well, good for her.
There a few reasons why torture is almost always a bad idea:
1) From a practical standpoint, it doesn't work. John McCain, a man who knows something about torture, has said that a torture victim will tell his captors anything just to get it to stop. So the information is probably useless anyway.
2) There's a moral issue here. If someone can tell me that they can envision Jesus hooking up the jumper cables to some guy's testicles and cranking up the generator, well, they need a little help.
3) Where do you stop? If the guy won't fess up, why not drag his little girl out and torture her in front of him until he talks?
"Whatever it takes'' is tough guy talk for "I'm willing to lose my soul.''
posted by Michael Riley at 10:11 AM
17 Comments:
Candidates say anything these days. It's hard to know what a person would do once they're in office. We can certainly speculate, and candidates can publicly say whatever they want.
Lately, it's been a real crapshoot in local and presidential politics.
The key word is terrorist,there are no rules of engagement at that point.
Questions that relate to torturing a suspect in order to save lives are bogus, anyway. That's action movie crap, not reality. What a shame that we can't tell the difference. Perhaps, in calmer, more rational times, we'd be able to see the bluster and manipulation in such an approach and realize that the scenario is fabricated. But with today's flag-waving, "let's find someone to kick ass on" mentality we're not in a position to think things through rationally.
Even if he were tortured to death without any answers, still not a waste .will even save taxpayers $ by keeping another terrorist out of our court/jail/military jail system.
It looks like no one has learned from two planes slamming into the WTC.Terrorists don't pay attention to the "rules of war'. We will see how long Hillary will maintain her position when that mushroom cloud goes off over San Francisco or NYC.
See? That's what I mean. People just can't behave rationally is situations like this. It's always inevitable that some yahoos will ask for more blood -- no matter whose it is -- or fall for the rhetoric of fear as espoused by the neocons who are such experts at manipulating people. Part of the problem is that people have no idea when they're being manipulated. The other part of the problem is that people are often too stupid to see it even after it's been pointed out to them.
A pacifist atheist who is also unrealistic, a blog-bully and naive-definition of ray.
anonymous wrote:
"A pacifist atheist..."
You think I'm a pacifist? ROTFLMAO!
"... who is also unrealistic,..."
I've found that people who call others 'unrealistic' without explaining themselves are just searching for an insult but can't think of a better word.
"... a blog-bully..."
Those who can't defend themselves must resort to calling others bullies.
"... and naive..."
Again, no explanation. Stop wasting my time.
"-definition of ray..."
Is that the best you've got? I guess you're just another doorbell-ringer who runs away when someone answers the door.
Ding dong.
Is that a personal admission?
No, but you obviously keep answering your door.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Ray. Ray who? Ray who cares!
Yawn.
Finally, ray is speechless. Yee-Ha.
Even by yawning I'm contributing more to these blogs than you are.
Don't you have to pull some wings of tiny insects and/or insult, degrade Margaret today?
This guy genuinely has no idea what non sequitur means.
BTW, are you equating those two things?
Anonymous said...
The key word is terrorist,there are no rules of engagement at that point.
Then define "terrorist" and suggest how the definition can be adaquately applied to Joe Arab to distingish between "the good kind" and the bad."
Then I would like you to speculate as to how many of the countless detained without habbeus corpus fit the definition.
JDS
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